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rizzo Modelgun Officer

Joined: 05 May 2005 Posts: 366 Location: Bucks, UK
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2Sharp Modelgun Officer

Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 386 Location: South in the Swedish kingdom.
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:04 am Post subject: Re: Beretta Silencer |
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Cool, good thinking!
I'd love to have slightly longer barrels available for modelguns that had threads and thread protectors.
Suppressors are the shit, very cool add-ons for any gun. |
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rizzo Modelgun Officer

Joined: 05 May 2005 Posts: 366 Location: Bucks, UK
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Hehe, yes they are indeed 'the shit'
I too would love to have a threaded barrel, but they would undoubtedly be very weak because the manufactures would have to make them from plastic These adaptors are metal and so have long lasting thread.
THere are other adaptors available for most models with protruding barrels (like the 92F) |
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2Sharp Modelgun Officer

Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 386 Location: South in the Swedish kingdom.
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Yes, weak plastic, good point....
We need full metal model guns so we can add cans and other goodies!!
Here's a friends nice real steel set-up:
How i wish that i could own that here in Sweden
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claymore Modelgun Perfectionist

Joined: 05 Dec 2004 Posts: 1308 Location: London
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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If that would stop the silencer getting blown off the gun i would get one but the silencer i have which is for the 93R and has the same grub screw for fixing gets blown off the barrel after the first shot, not good and it scares the barrel.  |
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mark Site Admin

Joined: 25 Nov 2004 Posts: 2565 Location: Washington State U.S.A.
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, unfortunately, the somewhat weak construction of the plastic barrels (due of course, to Japanese laws) does cause problems with the application of a simulated suppressor.
Gravity and it's friend, physics also contributes to our suppressor woes..An object at rest tends to stay at rest...When a sudden force is exerted (in this case the slide and the moving barrel) the somewhat heavy suppressor remains "motion-less" and places great pressures on the barrels front/suppressor attachment point as the slide stops due to spring tension or mechanical stops.
Also, when the slide/barrel returns to battery, the suppressor/barrel attachment point is again subjected to (possible brarrel breaking) tension
Now, if the suppressor weighed "next to nothing" or was supported by the frame or slide then the problem would not be so prevalent and the barrels would last longer with the suppressors attached.. _________________ Wanted to buy: MGC Sten MK3....trades?(still)
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Spencerman Modelgun Master

Joined: 24 Dec 2005 Posts: 891 Location: Brighton, England
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe something like the Al-Gi-mec (not 1005 sure if spelled correctly) conversion for the Beretta is what you need. Should fit onto a model gun without too much problem, and would look pretty cool. I still havent sussed out quite how to attach a picture here yet, so I wont, but you should be able to find a pic pretty easily. It is the same modification as was made to the Berettas in the movie Leon and Underworld. You could probably also further modify this modification to take a screw in silencer without too much trouble. Only downside is, that since the silly ban on handguns in the uk, I do not know where you might get one. I suppose a good proper gun store would be able to help you. Until that is sussed, anyone considered getting a lasermax internal laser concealed within the recoil spring guide rod (ala Lethal Weapon 4) for thier model gun?  |
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rizzo Modelgun Officer

Joined: 05 May 2005 Posts: 366 Location: Bucks, UK
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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compensators?
Btw- to add an image just paste the image url into here and put the img tags around it. Simple  |
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Spencerman Modelgun Master

Joined: 24 Dec 2005 Posts: 891 Location: Brighton, England
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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It mounts to the frame and creates an extention to the gun, not like a standard compensator. This should support the extra weight of the silencer without putting any stress on the barrel. Just a thought.
Sorry to sound stupid, but where do I get the url from?  |
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claymore Modelgun Perfectionist

Joined: 05 Dec 2004 Posts: 1308 Location: London
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| No its a good question, you need to have pics posted on a site like photobucket (which is already on the web) then copy the url and paste in the forum |
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nstgprops Modelgun Associate

Joined: 21 Jun 2010 Posts: 38 Location: Oyster Bay, NY (USA)
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| mark wrote: | Yes, unfortunately, the somewhat weak construction of the plastic barrels (due of course, to Japanese laws) does cause problems with the application of a simulated suppressor.
Gravity and it's friend, physics also contributes to our suppressor woes..An object at rest tends to stay at rest...When a sudden force is exerted (in this case the slide and the moving barrel) the somewhat heavy suppressor remains "motion-less" and places great pressures on the barrels front/suppressor attachment point as the slide stops due to spring tension or mechanical stops.
Also, when the slide/barrel returns to battery, the suppressor/barrel attachment point is again subjected to (possible brarrel breaking) tension
Now, if the suppressor weighed "next to nothing" or was supported by the frame or slide then the problem would not be so prevalent and the barrels would last longer with the suppressors attached.. |
Keystone Arsenal Replicas (KAR) in PA (USA) custom-builds a dummy suppressor from "tough but light" PVC for the Bruni 8mm Walther PPK blank-fire replica. I think they even do barrel threading -- this might be an anwer to the 'ABS tension breakage' issue for suppressor attachments on PFC model guns -- couldn't hurt to give them a call / send an email inquiry.
nstgprops _________________ Set Armorer's #1 rule: "Keep it safe." |
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